Anyone remember reading about this guy?
Claimed he came from the year 2036, predicted a lot of stuff that actually happened
On january 29, 2001 he said "I get no pleasure out of being right when it comes to CJD disease, war in the Middle East or suffering people in far away lands. There's nothing like the look on someone's face when you tell them 100,000 people will be dead tomorrow."
the next day this came out from cnn
Study puts Iraqi toll at 100,000
LONDON, England -- Public health experts have estimated that around 100,000 Iraqi civilians have died since the United States invaded Iraq in March last year.
Also he talked about an earthquake in peru, and about a month later that actually happened."I might even decide to tell you about an earthquake in Peru but then people that would have died by chance will now live and vice versa."
Earthquake in Peru
Southern Peru, June 23, 2001 — A magnitude-8.1 earthquake (originally thought to be 7.9) toppled adobe homes and stone buildings, on Saturday afternoon (June 23). Most of the damage and fatalities occurred in the towns of Arequipa, Moquegua and Tacna. Arequipa Mayor Manuel Guillin said that 70 percent of the homes in his town were damaged. The American Red Cross joined the Peruvian Red Cross to get relief to the earthquake victims.
Re: John Titor predictions coming true?
ALL of Titor's predictions came true with the exception of the "no official Olympics after 2004" prediction.
He predicted that the Civil War would begin in 2004. You didn't notice? I think you did. 2004 was, as it turned out, when the Republicans first used the electronic voting boxes to steal the US Presidency, which amounts to a hostile takeover of the government, an act which would qualify as the beginning of a Civil War in any historian's eyes. You remember that election night, don't you? All day long, all the exit polls said, strongly and consistently, that the Democrats were going to win the Presidency, but then the black boxes surprised everyone by insisting instead that Bush won. It was the first time EVER that those polls were wrong. It was ALSO the first time the USA used those black box voting machines.
Titor said that the US Civil War would start in 2004 or 2005. That fits with the election, because the election occurs in 2004 but the inauguration wasn't until 2005.
Titor said that the Civil War would begin in 2004/05, but the civil violence wouldn't arrive until 2011. This is something that no one pays any attention to, but it's a huge clue to what he was talking about. What kind of a civil war begins six years before any fighting breaks out? A silent coup, that's what kind. That's why I think he was right about his prediction about the civil war starting in 2004/05.
He completely nailed his prediction about 2008. He predicted "The year 2008 was a general date by which time everyone will realize the world they thought they were living in was over." This prediction proved all too correct when the world economy crashed in 2008 and we entered the worst economic crisis since the Great Depression. 2008 was huge turning point for the whole world, just as Titor predicted it would be.
He predicted we would have an "overheating problem with our space plane", and then the Challenger Explosion occurred because of, yes, exactly that: an overheating problem.
He predicted "degrading US foreign policy and consistency", and under Obama the US has been far less friendly to Israel and far more to Muslim nations, which certainly qualifies as an inconsistency.
He predicted a revival of States Rights as a major national issue, and this prediction also proved correct recently, with the advent of the State Sovereignty movement.
While he stated that the US Civil War would technically begin in 2004/2005, he made many statements indicating that this conflict would not turn violent until 2011 ("I keep saying her tune will change in about ten years [2011] and she'll be cleaning shotguns in her sleep" and "outright open fighting was common by 2011").
He predicted the US would see "a Waco type event every month that steadily gets worse", and today the major story in the news is about all the thousands of families getting forcefully thrown out of their homes, which is exactly what the government was trying to do at Waco.
Although he maintained that the US Civil War officially started in 2004/2005, he added that the conflict would not really get going until much later : "The conflict will consume everyone in the US by 2012", which is a timeline very consistent with today's economic crisis and foreclosure rush.
He predicted that "The West will become very unstable," something that is occurring right now, as we have seen in all the recent news stories covering the riots and chaos in Greece, France, England, Ireland, Portugal, Germany, Italy, Russia, Spain, and Iceland
He predicted that China would become very aggressive and expansionistic, and it would "forcefully annex Taiwan, Japan and Korea" before 2015, and the news has carried stories lately suggesting that China is laying the groundwork for such expansion, with its recent huge military buildup, its naval fleet expansion, and its latest move to boost its naval presence in disputed waters.
Titor said that during the coming war, the greatest number of deaths would be via starvation, and the news has carried numerous stories about severe food shortages around the world over the last two years.
He said that homosexuals would openly serve in the US army, a prediction that came true just recently with the repeal of "don't ask don't tell".
At some time in early November of 2000, someone showed up in a few Internet discussion boards calling themselves Timetravel_0. Over time, they then laid claim to the real name, John Titor, a time traveler from the year 2036. On March 24, 2001, John Titor announced he would be leaving our time and returning to 2036. After that, he was never heard from again.
Note, every quote has been taken from one source, the John Titor Archives right here on ATS.
First of all, i know many have already claimed John Titor the time traveler was a hoax. I'm not here to say it is or isn't. And that is not the topic I want to discuss. I would rather focus on the predictions, instead of the man behind them. I'm only making an observation. That much of what he predicted should be looked at a littler closer now that so much time has passed since the predictions were made. Was he a time traveler, a futurist, an Illuminati insider, a psychic? I have no idea, and I doubt anyone can 100% prove either way. I only know that the world of today looks nothing like I would have imagined before 911 happened. And lately it's starting to look more like the world he described. So from this point on, I will only look at and try to understand these predictions from a time travelers point of view. Predictions made before 911. Before this country began to change so rapidly.
"Imagine your path through time is through a cone. The farther away from the center of the cone, the more differences you will see in the world line. The C204 begins to "break away" at about 60 years. This means the level of confidence drops rapidly after 60 years of travel and the world line divergence increases. However, the longer the unit is on past a safe divergance confidence, the "stranger" the world line becomes. The unit I have is safe to about 1% for every sixty years at max power. The first "leg" of my trip was from 2036 to 1975. After two VGL checks, the divergance was estimated at about 2.5% (from my 2036)."
If this statement is true, then there should be enough divergence considering he traveled from 2036 to 1975 (61 years), and then to 2000 to hang out for several months, to create notable differences in the timeline. Assuming that this is accurate, predicted dates could easily be off, and maybe even small portions of "events" might not match up.
"what if I told you I did go forward to "your" 2036 and it looks nothing like mine. It is quite possible. If I go forward on this world line, the future will not be my future."
So instead of focusing on a timeline of dates, or events that didn't come to pass, lets just look at possible events but not associated with specific dates. After 12 years, does anything sound familiar or even possible? Could there really be a version of the future similar (not exact) to what he described waiting for us?
"There is a civil war in the United States. That conflict flares up and down for 10 years. Russia launches a nuclear strike against the major cities in the United States (which is the "other side" of the civil war from my perspective), China and Europe . The United States counter attacks. The US cities are destroyed along with the AFE (American Federal Empire)...thus we (in the country) won. The European Union and China were also destroyed. (3 Billion People wiped out.) Russia is now our largest trading partner and the Capitol of the US was moved to Omaha Nebraska."
Wow, what a grim outlook. Could something so disastrous actually be a possibility in very very near future. Well, look at the world around us. Seems the conflict here at home between the federal government and the people just keeps getting worse with every month that passes. Since 911, our freedoms have been stripped away, one after the other. And now the divide has never felt so deep. The government continues to peck away at our freedoms and the constitution, and the latest freedom on the plate, the 2nd amendment, is creating quite the backlash from the people who support it.
Civil War? Laughable before 911....now, well it looks more and more like it every day.
Nuclear Strike against America? Again, didn't consider it a huge possibility before 911, but now.... between NK acting like they have something to prove, and now Russia recent activities....things seem to be progressing swiftly?
3 billion people wiped out. 3 billion. Take a moment to realize just how much that would change the course of history.
"I know exactly where I was and every detail of the exact moment the first nuclear warheads began falling on Jacksonville."
"While you sit by and watch your Constitution being torn away from you, you willfully eat poisoned food, buy manufactured products no one needs and turn an uncaring eye away from millions of people suffering and dying all around you."
"Russia's enemy in the United States is not you, the average person. Russia's enemy is the United States government."
"Wavering western support for Israel is what gives Israel's neighbors the confidence to attack. The last resort for a defensive Israel and it's offensive Arab neighbors is to use weapons of mass destruction. In the grand scheme of things, the war in the middle-east is a part of what's to come, not the cause."
"Although I understand the "gun rights" issue here, I cannot relate to it all and it is a common point of argument with my mother. I keep saying her tune will change in about ten years and she'll be cleaning shotguns in her sleep but it doesn't help. If it makes you feel any better, I never shot anyone who wasn't trying to kill me."
"When the civil "conflict" started and got worse, people generally decided to either stay in the cities and lose most of their civil rights under the guise of security or leave the cities for more isolated and rural areas. Our home was searched once and the neighbor across the street was arrested for some unknown reason. That convinced my father to leave the city."
Thoughts? Can anyone else see the similarities between the world he described and what is now happening nearly 13 years later? Forget about dates, and specific events, I couldn't care less if he was who he said he was. Just the general tone of the world and the country we live in today seems like it's headed in that direction, and that alone makes it worth looking at.
If he was really a time traveler, then our timelines would have differences. Like he said, our future is not going to resemble his home, so there would be differences, but we can't guess what they would be. All we can do is look at the world in front of us, digest the possibilities, and prepare the best we can, no matter what the future holds.
edit on 14-3-2013 by Under Water because: spelling
John Titor’s story was painted in the dulcet, midnight colors of Coast to Coast AM, driven by a community’s desire to believe, if just for a moment, that time travel was possible.
Over the years, the mythology became mired, polluted by impostors and opportunists. The story of the story took center stage, outshining what we originally found so compelling.
But how has John Titor himself, as we knew him then, fared?
Let’s find out. Let’s look at his most well known predictions, the ones that make your hair stand on end, or cause you to laugh at their outrageousness. In no particular order.
But remember: We shouldn’t call them “predictions.” They’re statements of “fact” from the point of view of a time traveler.
Reflections of an individual’s past that were never guaranteed to become our future.
1. A Devastating Nuclear War
A World War in 2015 killed nearly 3 billion people.
We’ll begin with one of the few Titor predictions we’ve yet to reach, simply by virtue of it still being in the future.
John Titor allegedly began his journey in 2036. He’d grown up in Florida, and experienced both a domestic conflict and a worldwide nuclear war. Their effects were disastrous, and much of Titor’s story involves his contempt for the people of our time period; he viewed us as sheep who did nothing to prevent the horrors that followed.
2015 is three years away, and steadily approaching. Is there a scenario brewing that may lead us down this dark path?
In the context of Titor’s predictions, perhaps not — his other, far-reaching statements, such as those about a coming Civil War in the United States, never happened (“There is a Civil War in the United States that starts in 2005”). But modern tensions today that did not exist in 2000-2001 do give pause.
These tensions involve the growing conflict with Iran about their nuclear weapons program, and threats that Israel may launch their own unilateral attack on the country very soon (Read: Israelis seem resigned to a strike on Iran)
The Middle East, already near the breaking point, has experienced violent protests in Syria and Egypt, and an indefinite occupation of the region by the United States. The situation is already bad, but it’s not difficult to imagine it becoming worse. Far worse.
2. Deception Leading To The Iraq War
None of the things I have said will be a surprise. They were set in motion ten, twenty, even thirty years ago. Are you really surprised to find out that Iraq has nukes now or is that just BS to whip everyone up into accepting the next war?
This is one of a few John Titor quotes that always jumps out at people.
It’s true that the Middle East has, in recent history (and naturally before Titor’s posts), experienced anything but peace. But the specificity of Titor’s remarks regarding not only the Iraq War, but the deception about Weapons Of Mass Destruction hits the nail on the head a little too hard to be ignored.
Titor also made statements like “As far as war goes, I have faith you are quite capable of starting one all by yourself,” and “In the grand scheme of things, the war in the Middle East is a part of what’s to come, not the cause.” Always implying that a long, drawn out battle was on the horizon.
Was this nothing more than simple foresight driven by (then-) contemporary views on foreign policy? I suppose thoughts of a renewed conflict in the Middle East were not farfetched, as the war in Iraq has a history that stretches well beyond the events of 9/11.
However, of all the alleged time travelers who have come and gone, these remarks make John Titor one of a kind.
3. The 2008 Olympics: Cancelled
As a result of the many conflicts, no, there were no official Olympics after 2004.
Of course, Titor didn’t always hit the mark.
The 2008 Olympics, which were ultimately held in Beijing, China, still happened. However, do you remember how close they came to not happening?
During the lead up to the Olympics, Tibetan protests spread throughout Chinese provinces, with calls for independence and the return of the Dalai Lama. Many wondered if this would interfere with the Olympics, leading to a boycott (Read: Police tighten grip; China says Olympics won’t be disrupted)
This is, of course, slightly twisting Titor’s words. He mentioned “many conflicts,” most likely implying that civil unrest leading up to the war rendered the Olympics impractical and unwanted.
But remember: Titor mentioned a slight divergence, anywhere from 1-2.5%, which could make all the difference in the world.
4. The Hidden Functions of the IBM 5100
You mean other than the mad cow pandemic, the breakthroughs in high-energy physics and the unknown functions of the 5100?
We’ve already talked about Titor’s connections to the IBM 5100. It’s true that, at the time of his posting, the hidden functionality of the IBM 5100 portable computer was unknown to the average consumer. Especially around 2000-2001, the average person wouldn’t have known such an obscure detail.
On the other hand, Titor’s statements about a “mad cow pandemic” and “breakthroughs in high-energy physics” are somewhat murkier.
There was mild panic regarding Creutzfeldt-Jakob Disease, or CJD (the human form of mad cow disease). However, this was quite a few years ago, and nothing I’d call a pandemic.
The unfortunate thing, however, is that CJD has a potential incubation period of decades, meaning if there was a massive spread of the illness that occurred 10 or even 20 years ago, we still wouldn’t know about it.
As for “high-energy physics,” new breakthroughs at CERN — which is almost its own character in the John Titor saga — may lead to some extraordinary outcomes. More specifically, Titor said:
Some very interesting things will be going on at CERN in the near future.
The Higgs Boson. Faster-than-light neutrinos. Whether or not anything comes of this, it’s too early to tell, but the forward march of progress continues. As the LHC ramps up its energy, who knows what we’ll discover.
5. An Overheating Space Plane
Care to share with me how you solved the overheating problem on your space plane?
This is another one of Titor’s statements that often raises eyebrows. What’s most curious to me is his use of the phrase “space plane.” If he had been referring to a shuttle, why not say shuttle?
That said, many view this comment as an allusion to the Columbia space shuttle disaster in 2003, which occurred after a piece of foam struck the shuttle’s left wing during take-off. Upon re-entry, superheated air breached the damaged wing, leading to the ultimate disintegration of the shuttle.
6. Russia & China
Russia and China have always had a very strange relationship. Even the news I see now indicates that continued weapons deals to allies, border clashes and overpopulation will lead to hostilities. The West will become very unstable which gives China the confidence to “expand.”
China has grown exponentially, while the United States and much of the west has been hit by economic turmoil and civil unrest. I’m not sure we’re at the point of being regarded as unstable, but given the relatively prosperous economic climate of the 1990s, mainstream thought in 2000-2001 would not have predicted this falling house of cards.
Even our relations with Russia and China are heating up again, thanks to the current situation with Iran. Furthermore, Titor said:
I believe they [China] are pretty close to putting a man in orbit. It should not surprise you if they do that soon.
Done and done. China put a man in orbit in October 2003, and continues to make strides in what now appears to be a one-country space race. Meanwhile, the NASA budget continues to dwindle.
7. A Growing Civil Unrest
They will be the ones arresting and holding people without due process.
One of the greatest themes of John Titor’s story was the ultimate decline of western civilization, and the increasing number of civil conflicts within the United States leading up to an all-out war in 2005.
Without diving headfirst into the dark and sordid world of U.S. politics, policies such as the Patriot Act and the NDAA do point in this direction, and the U.S. Government has continued to grow since 9/11. Future legislation like SOPA, PIPA, and the already-signed ACTA slowly chip away at the average citizen’s rights, making way for massive corporations to swoop in and claim, well, everything.
The years may be off, but I wouldn’t disregard Titor’s statements about civil strife just yet.
Titor also stated the following:
The President or ‘leader’ in 2005 I believe tried desperately to be the next Lincoln and hold the country together but many of their policies drove a larger wedge into the Bill of Rights. The President in 2009 was interested only in keeping his/her power base.
Our President in 2005 was George W. Bush, but I can’t help but think of President Obama when Titor alludes to someone trying to be a unifying Lincoln figure.
Barack Obama seemed like the kind of candidate who wanted to unite America, to bring about change and fix the system. It can be argued that he failed, but it can also be argued that any actual attempt to “fix” our government will ultimately be obstructed, no matter how many promises are made to the common citizen.
The Tea Party and the Occupy Wall Street protestors also come to mind. Riots breaking out around the world and here within our own borders. A poor economy. The increasing role of government in our lives. Perhaps the most telling of John Titor’s statements about civil liberties was this:
The conflict was not about taking and holding ground it was about order and rights. They were betting that people wanted security instead of freedom and they were wrong.
8. A Tale Of Many Worlds
The Many Worlds Theory seems to wrap up very nicely into current string theory. Unfortunately, we have not solved string theory yet either but (n-10) seems to be the best working model we have in 2036. As you are probably aware, the “big equation” does not need the final solution in order to take advantage of the smaller parts that do work in the real world.
Verifying the science behind John Titor’s time machine is a bit complicated. A subject for another time, perhaps.
However, it’s true that Stephen Hawking changed his mind about the nature of black holes and Hawking Radiation not long after Titor showed up.
In his original faxes to Art Bell, Titor stated:
Time travel was invented in 2034. Off shoots of certain successful fusion reactor research allowed scientists at CERN to produce the world’s first contained singularity engine.
The basic design involves rotating singularities inside a magnetic field. By altering the speed and direction of rotation you can travel both forward and backward in time.
The use of black holes as described by Titor clashed with contemporary understandings of how they work, namely that microsingularities would evaporate before you’d be able to do anything with them.
However, in 2004, Hawking revised his theory, bringing it in line with Titor’s comments on the nature of Hawking radiation.
Another interesting statement of Titor’s that jumped out at me:
It is believed that all worldlines end. It is also thought that parallel worldlines that appear to be the same end at different times.
This would, unfortunately, coincide with the existence of a low-mass Higgs Boson scenario, and recent findings at CERN seem to indicate that this may (READ: may) be the case. A low-mass Higgs Boson would indicate that, at any moment, the universe “could spontaneously explode.”
The vision John Titor paints of the multiverse (or, as he refers to it, the “superverse”) is, as I understand it, similar to those fiber optic light spheres (pictured above). Each worldline is a single point that stretches outward infinitely. But some of the lows lines can spontaneously come to an end, independent of the others.
“Time travel” occurs as a result of traveling between those lines. Thus, no paradoxes, as any time traveler would be entering another universe entirely.
Titor also makes several references to the Everett-Wheeler model:
Temporal space-time is made up of every possible quantum state. The Everett Wheeler model is correct.
The Everett-Wheeler model is also known as the theory of the Universal Wavefunction. It’s an attempted explanation for the bizarre wave-like behavior of individual particles in the double-slit experiment, stating that every possible outcome of events always happens, each event splitting off into its own universe to avoid wavefunction collapse. Hence, multiple worldlines.
At the moment, none of this can be verified, but our current path of physics may surprise us, and the Many-worlds interpretation is considered a legitimate possibility.
9. What Makes Time Travel Possible
The general public was informed about time travel around 2034.
And now we’re back to the future. Will we ever gain the ability to travel through time? Titor stated that the mechanisms of time travel would be discovered at CERN with the creation of microsingularities, or miniature black holes.
Titor’s own machine, which he was trained to operate specifically for his mission in 1975, was created by General Electric, and at the time of his departure from 2036, new variations were being designed, with more accurate clocks and far greater precision.
But we, here, cannot tell the future.
The Lessons Of John Titor
For an alleged time traveler posting on Internet forums in 2000 to early 2001, Titor was surprisingly forward-thinking. Whoever this individual was, he foresaw the renewed conflict in the Middle East, the growing tensions within the U.S., and the arrival of certain scientific breakthroughs.
Much of this could have been extrapolated from information already available at the time. Past conflicts, economic foresight, scientific speculation. We can often see the world of tomorrow through the lens of today.
But tomorrow is always changing. Prior to 9/11, I’m not sure how many of us could have envisioned this post-9/11 world. A world which Titor, despite the failure of most of his “predictions,” saw so clearly.
John Titor is, above all else, an interesting character. His finesse at winning the hearts and minds, or otherwise drawing the ire, of Internet goers lies simply in his statement “I don’t want you to believe me.” Perhaps there’s something to be said for reverse psychology after all.
Stripping out the time travel, the bias, the doom and gloom, we’re left with a simple tale of caution and morality, in which we’re warned to keep our minds open, our intentions pure, and our eyes focused only on the truth:
When the day comes for my “prediction” to be realized it will either happen or not. If it does happen, then your ability to judge your environment is crippled by your acceptance of me as a “knower of all things” and gifted with the ability to tell the future. If I am wrong, then everything I have said that might possibly have made you think about your world in a different way is suddenly discredited. I do not want either.
Although I do have personal reasons for being here and speaking with you, the most I could hope for is that you recognize the possibility of time travel as a reality. You are able to change your worldline for better or worse just as I am.
It’s strange how, looking at Titor’s predictions and comparing them to our actual reality, a pattern nearly forms.
If it weren’t for an odd turn here, or a slight shift there, Titor’s world could have become our own.
And who knows, maybe it will.
If our worldline were different by just 2.5%, where would we be?
John Titor is the name used on several bulletin boards during 2000 and 2001 by a poster claiming to be a time traveler from 2036.
In these posts, Titor made numerous predictions (a number of them vague, some quite specific about events in the near future, starting with events in 2004. He described a drastically changed future in which the United States had broken into five smaller regions, the environment and infrastructure had been devastated by a nuclear attack, and most other world powers had been destroyed.
To date, the story has been retold on numerous web sites, in a book, in a play, and the Japanese visual novel/anime Steins;Gate. Titor has also been discussed occasionally on the nationally-syndicated radio show Coast to Coast AM.
The first posts appeared on the Time Travel Institute forums on November 2, 2000, under the name TimeTravel_0. At the time the posts had nothing to do with future events and the name "John Titor" was not being used. Instead, the posts discussed time travel in general, the first one being the "six parts" description of what a time machine would need to have to work (see below) and responses to questions about how such a machine would work. Early messages tended to be short.
The name "John Titor" was not introduced until January 2001, when TimeTravel_0 began posting at the Art Bell BBS Forums (which required a name or pseudonym for every account). The Titor posts ended in late March 2001. Eventually, a number of the threads became corrupted; but Titor's posts had been saved on subscribers' hard drives and were copied to Anomalies.net, along with new discussions of the science behind Titor's time travelling as well as his predictions. Around 2003, various websites reproduced Titor's posts, re-arranging them into narratives. Not all refer to the original dates posted
In his online postings, Titor claimed to be an American soldier from 2036, based in Tampa in Hillsborough County, Florida, who was assigned to a governmental time-travel project. Purportedly, Titor had been sent back to 1975 to retrieve an IBM 5100 computer which he said was needed to "debug" various legacy computer programs in 2036; a reference to the UNIX year 2038 problem. The 5100 runs the APL and BASIC programming languages. Titor had been selected for this mission specifically, given that his paternal grandfather was directly involved with the assembly and programming of the 5100.
Titor claimed to be on a stopover in the year 2000 for "personal reasons"; i.e., to collect pictures lost in the (future) civil war and to visit his family, of whom he spoke often. Titor also said he had been, for a few months, trying to alert anyone that would listen about the threat of Creutzfeldt–Jakob disease spread through beef products and about the possibility of civil war within the United States. When questioned about them by an online subscriber, Titor also expressed an interest in mysteries such as UFOs (which remained unexplained in his time). Titor suggested that UFOs and extra-terrestrials might be travelers from much further into the future than his own time, with superior time machines.
Titor described the time machine on several occasions. In an early post, he described it as a "stationary mass, temporal displacement unit powered by two top-spin, dual positive singularities", producing a "standard off-set Tipler sinusoid". The earliest post was more explicit, saying it contained the following:
Two magnetic housing units for the dual micro singularities
An electron injection manifold to alter mass and gravity of the micro singularities
A cooling and X-ray venting system
Gravity sensors, or a variable gravity lock
Four main cesium clocks
Three main computer units
According to the posts, the device was installed in the rear of a 1967 Chevrolet Corvette convertible and later moved to a 1987 truck having four-wheel drive.
Titor also shared several scans of the manual of a "C204 Time Displacement Unit" with diagrams and schematics. He also shared some photographs of the device installed in the car.
Titor further claimed that the "Everett–Wheeler model of quantum physics" was correct. This model, better known as the many-worlds interpretation, posits that every possible outcome of a quantum decision actually occurs in a separate "universe". Titor stated that this was the reason the grandfather paradox would not occur; following the logic of the argument, Titor would be killing a different John Titor's grandfather in a timeline other than his own.
...The grandfather paradox is impossible. In fact, all paradox is impossible. The Everett–Wheeler–Graham or multiple world theory is correct. All possible quantum states, events, possibilities, and outcomes are real, eventual, and occurring. The chances of everything happening someplace at sometime in the superverse is 100%
Although invoking the many-worlds interpretation of quantum mechanics, whereby events from his own timeline may differ from our own, Titor also expressed assurance that the differences were minimal. As such, his descriptions have been interpreted as predictions and compared with historical events since 2001.
The most immediate of Titor's predictions was of an upcoming civil war in the United States having to do with "order and rights". He described it as beginning in 2004, with civil unrest surrounding the presidential election of that year. This civil conflict that he characterizes as "having a Waco type event every month that steadily gets worse" will be "pretty much at everyone's doorstep" and erupts by 2008.
Titor claimed that as a 13-year old in 2011, he fought with the Fighting Diamondbacks, a shotgun infantry unit of Florida, for at least four years. However, in other posts he describes himself as hiding from the war. As a result of the war, the United States splits into five regions based on various factors and differing military objectives. This civil war, according to Titor, will end in 2015 with a brief but intense World War III:
In 2015, Russia launches a nuclear strike against the major cities in the United States (which is the "other side" of the civil war from my perspective), China, and Europe. The United States counter attacks. The US cities are destroyed along with the AFE (American Federal Empire)...thus we (in the country) won. The European Union and China were also destroyed.
Titor refers to the exchange as N Day. Washington, D.C. and Jacksonville, Florida are specifically mentioned as being hit. After the war, Omaha, Nebraska is the US's new capital city.
Titor is vague as to the exact motivations and causes for World War III. At one point, he characterized the hostilities as being led by "border clashes and overpopulation", but also points to the present conflict between Arabs and Jews as not a cause, but rather a milestone that precedes a World War III.
he posts were met with skepticism when they were being posted, but it was impossible to prove beforehand that the predicted events would not happen. Because Titor claimed the many-worlds interpretation of quantum physics was correct, effectively meaning that his travel was from a parallel universe and that things could occur differently than he had predicted, the details he presented wereunfalsifiable.
One of Titor's earliest assertions was that CERN would discover the basis for time travel sometime around 2001, with the creation of miniature black holes about half a year after his departure. An article occurring generally around the time he had predicted about miniature black holes being created by CERN (a recurring theme, also ascribed to Fermilab and Brookhaven at various times) was taken by some to be evidence of this claim, but these events did not occur either. Civil war did not break out after the 2004 presidential election, nor did conflicts in 2008 and 2012 as described by Titor.
Titor also unambiguously claimed that the last Olympics would occur in 2004. While it is unclear if he meant the summer or winter Olympics, both the 2008 and 2012 summer Olympics and the 2006 and 2010 winter Olympics have been successfully hosted.
In the context of the demonstration image provided by John Titor, the laser pointer's beam being "bent" reveals the obvious inconsistency of objects near the beam not appearing to be bent as well. The framing of the window visible in the background, for instance, should appear distorted in proximity to a large gravity gradient, but it does not. Some have speculated the "beam" is anoptical fiber.
Titor claimed that he was sent back to obtain an IBM 5100 because it could translate several types of computer code. According to IBM engineer Bob Dubke, Titor's statements regarding the IBM 5100's little-known ability to emulate and debug mainframe systems were correct.Supporters state that this information was not publicly available in 2000 or 2001 when Titor made his declaration,and Titor himself stated that this feature was "discovered" as late as 2036 when Unix, as the underlying source behind all computer operating systems still running local infrastructures and other computational tasks, was only two years away from no longer functioningdue to 32-bit integer limitations.
However, this emulation capability was widely known in the industry and commented on in depth in numerous publications dealing with both the 5100 and programmable microcode in general. References to this were also available on the Internet as early as 1999 and therefore predated Titor's postings. This is a fairly obscure bit of trivia, however, which suggests that whoever was making the posts either was familiar with the machine specifically or else had at least a general interest in retrocomputing.
Numerous commentators have pointed out the extensive similarities between the Titor story and Pat Frank's classic post-apocalyptic science fiction novel Alas, Babylon. Among other similarities, Alas, Babylon takes place in a small river-side town in Florida just before and after a nuclear war and describes the struggle to survive as a family in the aftermath. In the book, the protagonist lives in the fictional town of "Fort Repose", while Titor claimed to live in the "Fort", formerly the University of Florida.
The internal consistency of Titor's story has been questioned: for instance, in some posts he claims that money is widely used and people still have credit cards, despite his statement that centralized banking no longer exists (this is either an inconsistency or implies the rise of private currencies). In another posting, he speculated that today's dollar would be usable in his time, but that this would be after the reorganization of the federal government according to his own history, potentially making the currency worthless.
Other problems with the story include inconsistencies in Titor's comments. His first appearance appears to have been not in 2000, but in the summer of 1998 through two faxes to Art Bell's radio program Coast to Coast AM. When he began posting the online story, Y2K(January 1, 2000) had come and gone without any real problems. Yet in the 1998 faxes to Art Bell he said, "Y2K is a disaster. Many people freeze to death trying to get to warmer weather. The gov. tries to keep power by instituting marshall [sic] law..."
In the online story, Titor stated that a part of his mission was to prevent the coming world war by changing history. Yet during an IRC chat in October 2000, a month before he began posting, Titor was asked if the future could be changed from his predictions, and answered "It's too late ... I just wish things didn't have to happen the way they will." This stated mission also contradicts his other posts explaining that the multiverse theory is correct (see above), which would make changing history pointless in the context of his own timeline.
An Italian TV program (Voyager – Ai confini della conoscenza) aired an investigation of the John Titor story on May 19, 2008.Mike Lynch, the private detective hired to investigate, found that there were no registry traces, even far in the past, of any John Titor or Titor family. In addition, he discovered that there was a company that was called the John Titor Foundation. The John Titor Foundation is a for-profit Florida LLC that was formed September 16, 2003. It had no office, and it only had a rented post box with the address PMB 237, 7862 W Irlo Bronson Highway, Kissimmee FL 34747; no tapes, recordings, or evidence of Titor were found, and only Larry Haber, the CEO of the John Titor Foundation and an entertainment lawyer in Celebration, Florida, confirmed his existence. Lynch's conclusion is that John Titor may be John Rick Haber, a computer expert who is Larry Haber's brother.
also see:
http://eviland666.blogspot.com/2012/01/john-titor-coast-to-coast-am-youtube.html
http://eviland666.blogspot.com/2012/01/john-titor-442011-coast-to-coast-am.htmlhttp://eviland666.blogspot.com/2012/01/time-travelling-john-titor-2036-hoax-or.html
http://eviland666.blogspot.com/2012/01/time-travel-john-titors-startling.html
http://eviland666.blogspot.com/2012/01/john-titor-photos-he-posted.html
http://eviland666.blogspot.com/2012/01/1.html
http://eviland666.blogspot.com/2012/01/2.html
http://eviland666.blogspot.com/2012/01/interview-with-pamela-of-john-titor.html
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Claimed he came from the year 2036, predicted a lot of stuff that actually happened
On january 29, 2001 he said "I get no pleasure out of being right when it comes to CJD disease, war in the Middle East or suffering people in far away lands. There's nothing like the look on someone's face when you tell them 100,000 people will be dead tomorrow."
the next day this came out from cnn
Study puts Iraqi toll at 100,000
LONDON, England -- Public health experts have estimated that around 100,000 Iraqi civilians have died since the United States invaded Iraq in March last year.
Also he talked about an earthquake in peru, and about a month later that actually happened."I might even decide to tell you about an earthquake in Peru but then people that would have died by chance will now live and vice versa."
Earthquake in Peru
Southern Peru, June 23, 2001 — A magnitude-8.1 earthquake (originally thought to be 7.9) toppled adobe homes and stone buildings, on Saturday afternoon (June 23). Most of the damage and fatalities occurred in the towns of Arequipa, Moquegua and Tacna. Arequipa Mayor Manuel Guillin said that 70 percent of the homes in his town were damaged. The American Red Cross joined the Peruvian Red Cross to get relief to the earthquake victims.
Re: John Titor predictions coming true?
ALL of Titor's predictions came true with the exception of the "no official Olympics after 2004" prediction.
He predicted that the Civil War would begin in 2004. You didn't notice? I think you did. 2004 was, as it turned out, when the Republicans first used the electronic voting boxes to steal the US Presidency, which amounts to a hostile takeover of the government, an act which would qualify as the beginning of a Civil War in any historian's eyes. You remember that election night, don't you? All day long, all the exit polls said, strongly and consistently, that the Democrats were going to win the Presidency, but then the black boxes surprised everyone by insisting instead that Bush won. It was the first time EVER that those polls were wrong. It was ALSO the first time the USA used those black box voting machines.
Titor said that the US Civil War would start in 2004 or 2005. That fits with the election, because the election occurs in 2004 but the inauguration wasn't until 2005.
Titor said that the Civil War would begin in 2004/05, but the civil violence wouldn't arrive until 2011. This is something that no one pays any attention to, but it's a huge clue to what he was talking about. What kind of a civil war begins six years before any fighting breaks out? A silent coup, that's what kind. That's why I think he was right about his prediction about the civil war starting in 2004/05.
He completely nailed his prediction about 2008. He predicted "The year 2008 was a general date by which time everyone will realize the world they thought they were living in was over." This prediction proved all too correct when the world economy crashed in 2008 and we entered the worst economic crisis since the Great Depression. 2008 was huge turning point for the whole world, just as Titor predicted it would be.
He predicted we would have an "overheating problem with our space plane", and then the Challenger Explosion occurred because of, yes, exactly that: an overheating problem.
He predicted "degrading US foreign policy and consistency", and under Obama the US has been far less friendly to Israel and far more to Muslim nations, which certainly qualifies as an inconsistency.
He predicted a revival of States Rights as a major national issue, and this prediction also proved correct recently, with the advent of the State Sovereignty movement.
While he stated that the US Civil War would technically begin in 2004/2005, he made many statements indicating that this conflict would not turn violent until 2011 ("I keep saying her tune will change in about ten years [2011] and she'll be cleaning shotguns in her sleep" and "outright open fighting was common by 2011").
He predicted the US would see "a Waco type event every month that steadily gets worse", and today the major story in the news is about all the thousands of families getting forcefully thrown out of their homes, which is exactly what the government was trying to do at Waco.
Although he maintained that the US Civil War officially started in 2004/2005, he added that the conflict would not really get going until much later : "The conflict will consume everyone in the US by 2012", which is a timeline very consistent with today's economic crisis and foreclosure rush.
He predicted that "The West will become very unstable," something that is occurring right now, as we have seen in all the recent news stories covering the riots and chaos in Greece, France, England, Ireland, Portugal, Germany, Italy, Russia, Spain, and Iceland
He predicted that China would become very aggressive and expansionistic, and it would "forcefully annex Taiwan, Japan and Korea" before 2015, and the news has carried stories lately suggesting that China is laying the groundwork for such expansion, with its recent huge military buildup, its naval fleet expansion, and its latest move to boost its naval presence in disputed waters.
Titor said that during the coming war, the greatest number of deaths would be via starvation, and the news has carried numerous stories about severe food shortages around the world over the last two years.
He said that homosexuals would openly serve in the US army, a prediction that came true just recently with the repeal of "don't ask don't tell".
At some time in early November of 2000, someone showed up in a few Internet discussion boards calling themselves Timetravel_0. Over time, they then laid claim to the real name, John Titor, a time traveler from the year 2036. On March 24, 2001, John Titor announced he would be leaving our time and returning to 2036. After that, he was never heard from again.
Note, every quote has been taken from one source, the John Titor Archives right here on ATS.
First of all, i know many have already claimed John Titor the time traveler was a hoax. I'm not here to say it is or isn't. And that is not the topic I want to discuss. I would rather focus on the predictions, instead of the man behind them. I'm only making an observation. That much of what he predicted should be looked at a littler closer now that so much time has passed since the predictions were made. Was he a time traveler, a futurist, an Illuminati insider, a psychic? I have no idea, and I doubt anyone can 100% prove either way. I only know that the world of today looks nothing like I would have imagined before 911 happened. And lately it's starting to look more like the world he described. So from this point on, I will only look at and try to understand these predictions from a time travelers point of view. Predictions made before 911. Before this country began to change so rapidly.
"Imagine your path through time is through a cone. The farther away from the center of the cone, the more differences you will see in the world line. The C204 begins to "break away" at about 60 years. This means the level of confidence drops rapidly after 60 years of travel and the world line divergence increases. However, the longer the unit is on past a safe divergance confidence, the "stranger" the world line becomes. The unit I have is safe to about 1% for every sixty years at max power. The first "leg" of my trip was from 2036 to 1975. After two VGL checks, the divergance was estimated at about 2.5% (from my 2036)."
If this statement is true, then there should be enough divergence considering he traveled from 2036 to 1975 (61 years), and then to 2000 to hang out for several months, to create notable differences in the timeline. Assuming that this is accurate, predicted dates could easily be off, and maybe even small portions of "events" might not match up.
"what if I told you I did go forward to "your" 2036 and it looks nothing like mine. It is quite possible. If I go forward on this world line, the future will not be my future."
So instead of focusing on a timeline of dates, or events that didn't come to pass, lets just look at possible events but not associated with specific dates. After 12 years, does anything sound familiar or even possible? Could there really be a version of the future similar (not exact) to what he described waiting for us?
"There is a civil war in the United States. That conflict flares up and down for 10 years. Russia launches a nuclear strike against the major cities in the United States (which is the "other side" of the civil war from my perspective), China and Europe . The United States counter attacks. The US cities are destroyed along with the AFE (American Federal Empire)...thus we (in the country) won. The European Union and China were also destroyed. (3 Billion People wiped out.) Russia is now our largest trading partner and the Capitol of the US was moved to Omaha Nebraska."
Wow, what a grim outlook. Could something so disastrous actually be a possibility in very very near future. Well, look at the world around us. Seems the conflict here at home between the federal government and the people just keeps getting worse with every month that passes. Since 911, our freedoms have been stripped away, one after the other. And now the divide has never felt so deep. The government continues to peck away at our freedoms and the constitution, and the latest freedom on the plate, the 2nd amendment, is creating quite the backlash from the people who support it.
Civil War? Laughable before 911....now, well it looks more and more like it every day.
Nuclear Strike against America? Again, didn't consider it a huge possibility before 911, but now.... between NK acting like they have something to prove, and now Russia recent activities....things seem to be progressing swiftly?
3 billion people wiped out. 3 billion. Take a moment to realize just how much that would change the course of history.
"I know exactly where I was and every detail of the exact moment the first nuclear warheads began falling on Jacksonville."
"While you sit by and watch your Constitution being torn away from you, you willfully eat poisoned food, buy manufactured products no one needs and turn an uncaring eye away from millions of people suffering and dying all around you."
"Russia's enemy in the United States is not you, the average person. Russia's enemy is the United States government."
"Wavering western support for Israel is what gives Israel's neighbors the confidence to attack. The last resort for a defensive Israel and it's offensive Arab neighbors is to use weapons of mass destruction. In the grand scheme of things, the war in the middle-east is a part of what's to come, not the cause."
"Although I understand the "gun rights" issue here, I cannot relate to it all and it is a common point of argument with my mother. I keep saying her tune will change in about ten years and she'll be cleaning shotguns in her sleep but it doesn't help. If it makes you feel any better, I never shot anyone who wasn't trying to kill me."
"When the civil "conflict" started and got worse, people generally decided to either stay in the cities and lose most of their civil rights under the guise of security or leave the cities for more isolated and rural areas. Our home was searched once and the neighbor across the street was arrested for some unknown reason. That convinced my father to leave the city."
Thoughts? Can anyone else see the similarities between the world he described and what is now happening nearly 13 years later? Forget about dates, and specific events, I couldn't care less if he was who he said he was. Just the general tone of the world and the country we live in today seems like it's headed in that direction, and that alone makes it worth looking at.
If he was really a time traveler, then our timelines would have differences. Like he said, our future is not going to resemble his home, so there would be differences, but we can't guess what they would be. All we can do is look at the world in front of us, digest the possibilities, and prepare the best we can, no matter what the future holds.
edit on 14-3-2013 by Under Water because: spelling
John Titor’s story was painted in the dulcet, midnight colors of Coast to Coast AM, driven by a community’s desire to believe, if just for a moment, that time travel was possible.
Over the years, the mythology became mired, polluted by impostors and opportunists. The story of the story took center stage, outshining what we originally found so compelling.
But how has John Titor himself, as we knew him then, fared?
Let’s find out. Let’s look at his most well known predictions, the ones that make your hair stand on end, or cause you to laugh at their outrageousness. In no particular order.
But remember: We shouldn’t call them “predictions.” They’re statements of “fact” from the point of view of a time traveler.
Reflections of an individual’s past that were never guaranteed to become our future.
1. A Devastating Nuclear War
A World War in 2015 killed nearly 3 billion people.
We’ll begin with one of the few Titor predictions we’ve yet to reach, simply by virtue of it still being in the future.
John Titor allegedly began his journey in 2036. He’d grown up in Florida, and experienced both a domestic conflict and a worldwide nuclear war. Their effects were disastrous, and much of Titor’s story involves his contempt for the people of our time period; he viewed us as sheep who did nothing to prevent the horrors that followed.
2015 is three years away, and steadily approaching. Is there a scenario brewing that may lead us down this dark path?
In the context of Titor’s predictions, perhaps not — his other, far-reaching statements, such as those about a coming Civil War in the United States, never happened (“There is a Civil War in the United States that starts in 2005”). But modern tensions today that did not exist in 2000-2001 do give pause.
These tensions involve the growing conflict with Iran about their nuclear weapons program, and threats that Israel may launch their own unilateral attack on the country very soon (Read: Israelis seem resigned to a strike on Iran)
The Middle East, already near the breaking point, has experienced violent protests in Syria and Egypt, and an indefinite occupation of the region by the United States. The situation is already bad, but it’s not difficult to imagine it becoming worse. Far worse.
2. Deception Leading To The Iraq War
None of the things I have said will be a surprise. They were set in motion ten, twenty, even thirty years ago. Are you really surprised to find out that Iraq has nukes now or is that just BS to whip everyone up into accepting the next war?
This is one of a few John Titor quotes that always jumps out at people.
It’s true that the Middle East has, in recent history (and naturally before Titor’s posts), experienced anything but peace. But the specificity of Titor’s remarks regarding not only the Iraq War, but the deception about Weapons Of Mass Destruction hits the nail on the head a little too hard to be ignored.
Titor also made statements like “As far as war goes, I have faith you are quite capable of starting one all by yourself,” and “In the grand scheme of things, the war in the Middle East is a part of what’s to come, not the cause.” Always implying that a long, drawn out battle was on the horizon.
Was this nothing more than simple foresight driven by (then-) contemporary views on foreign policy? I suppose thoughts of a renewed conflict in the Middle East were not farfetched, as the war in Iraq has a history that stretches well beyond the events of 9/11.
However, of all the alleged time travelers who have come and gone, these remarks make John Titor one of a kind.
3. The 2008 Olympics: Cancelled
As a result of the many conflicts, no, there were no official Olympics after 2004.
Of course, Titor didn’t always hit the mark.
The 2008 Olympics, which were ultimately held in Beijing, China, still happened. However, do you remember how close they came to not happening?
During the lead up to the Olympics, Tibetan protests spread throughout Chinese provinces, with calls for independence and the return of the Dalai Lama. Many wondered if this would interfere with the Olympics, leading to a boycott (Read: Police tighten grip; China says Olympics won’t be disrupted)
This is, of course, slightly twisting Titor’s words. He mentioned “many conflicts,” most likely implying that civil unrest leading up to the war rendered the Olympics impractical and unwanted.
But remember: Titor mentioned a slight divergence, anywhere from 1-2.5%, which could make all the difference in the world.
4. The Hidden Functions of the IBM 5100
You mean other than the mad cow pandemic, the breakthroughs in high-energy physics and the unknown functions of the 5100?
We’ve already talked about Titor’s connections to the IBM 5100. It’s true that, at the time of his posting, the hidden functionality of the IBM 5100 portable computer was unknown to the average consumer. Especially around 2000-2001, the average person wouldn’t have known such an obscure detail.
On the other hand, Titor’s statements about a “mad cow pandemic” and “breakthroughs in high-energy physics” are somewhat murkier.
There was mild panic regarding Creutzfeldt-Jakob Disease, or CJD (the human form of mad cow disease). However, this was quite a few years ago, and nothing I’d call a pandemic.
The unfortunate thing, however, is that CJD has a potential incubation period of decades, meaning if there was a massive spread of the illness that occurred 10 or even 20 years ago, we still wouldn’t know about it.
As for “high-energy physics,” new breakthroughs at CERN — which is almost its own character in the John Titor saga — may lead to some extraordinary outcomes. More specifically, Titor said:
Some very interesting things will be going on at CERN in the near future.
The Higgs Boson. Faster-than-light neutrinos. Whether or not anything comes of this, it’s too early to tell, but the forward march of progress continues. As the LHC ramps up its energy, who knows what we’ll discover.
5. An Overheating Space Plane
Care to share with me how you solved the overheating problem on your space plane?
This is another one of Titor’s statements that often raises eyebrows. What’s most curious to me is his use of the phrase “space plane.” If he had been referring to a shuttle, why not say shuttle?
That said, many view this comment as an allusion to the Columbia space shuttle disaster in 2003, which occurred after a piece of foam struck the shuttle’s left wing during take-off. Upon re-entry, superheated air breached the damaged wing, leading to the ultimate disintegration of the shuttle.
6. Russia & China
Russia and China have always had a very strange relationship. Even the news I see now indicates that continued weapons deals to allies, border clashes and overpopulation will lead to hostilities. The West will become very unstable which gives China the confidence to “expand.”
China has grown exponentially, while the United States and much of the west has been hit by economic turmoil and civil unrest. I’m not sure we’re at the point of being regarded as unstable, but given the relatively prosperous economic climate of the 1990s, mainstream thought in 2000-2001 would not have predicted this falling house of cards.
Even our relations with Russia and China are heating up again, thanks to the current situation with Iran. Furthermore, Titor said:
I believe they [China] are pretty close to putting a man in orbit. It should not surprise you if they do that soon.
Done and done. China put a man in orbit in October 2003, and continues to make strides in what now appears to be a one-country space race. Meanwhile, the NASA budget continues to dwindle.
7. A Growing Civil Unrest
They will be the ones arresting and holding people without due process.
One of the greatest themes of John Titor’s story was the ultimate decline of western civilization, and the increasing number of civil conflicts within the United States leading up to an all-out war in 2005.
Without diving headfirst into the dark and sordid world of U.S. politics, policies such as the Patriot Act and the NDAA do point in this direction, and the U.S. Government has continued to grow since 9/11. Future legislation like SOPA, PIPA, and the already-signed ACTA slowly chip away at the average citizen’s rights, making way for massive corporations to swoop in and claim, well, everything.
The years may be off, but I wouldn’t disregard Titor’s statements about civil strife just yet.
Titor also stated the following:
The President or ‘leader’ in 2005 I believe tried desperately to be the next Lincoln and hold the country together but many of their policies drove a larger wedge into the Bill of Rights. The President in 2009 was interested only in keeping his/her power base.
Our President in 2005 was George W. Bush, but I can’t help but think of President Obama when Titor alludes to someone trying to be a unifying Lincoln figure.
Barack Obama seemed like the kind of candidate who wanted to unite America, to bring about change and fix the system. It can be argued that he failed, but it can also be argued that any actual attempt to “fix” our government will ultimately be obstructed, no matter how many promises are made to the common citizen.
The Tea Party and the Occupy Wall Street protestors also come to mind. Riots breaking out around the world and here within our own borders. A poor economy. The increasing role of government in our lives. Perhaps the most telling of John Titor’s statements about civil liberties was this:
The conflict was not about taking and holding ground it was about order and rights. They were betting that people wanted security instead of freedom and they were wrong.
8. A Tale Of Many Worlds
The Many Worlds Theory seems to wrap up very nicely into current string theory. Unfortunately, we have not solved string theory yet either but (n-10) seems to be the best working model we have in 2036. As you are probably aware, the “big equation” does not need the final solution in order to take advantage of the smaller parts that do work in the real world.
Verifying the science behind John Titor’s time machine is a bit complicated. A subject for another time, perhaps.
However, it’s true that Stephen Hawking changed his mind about the nature of black holes and Hawking Radiation not long after Titor showed up.
In his original faxes to Art Bell, Titor stated:
Time travel was invented in 2034. Off shoots of certain successful fusion reactor research allowed scientists at CERN to produce the world’s first contained singularity engine.
The basic design involves rotating singularities inside a magnetic field. By altering the speed and direction of rotation you can travel both forward and backward in time.
The use of black holes as described by Titor clashed with contemporary understandings of how they work, namely that microsingularities would evaporate before you’d be able to do anything with them.
However, in 2004, Hawking revised his theory, bringing it in line with Titor’s comments on the nature of Hawking radiation.
Another interesting statement of Titor’s that jumped out at me:
It is believed that all worldlines end. It is also thought that parallel worldlines that appear to be the same end at different times.
This would, unfortunately, coincide with the existence of a low-mass Higgs Boson scenario, and recent findings at CERN seem to indicate that this may (READ: may) be the case. A low-mass Higgs Boson would indicate that, at any moment, the universe “could spontaneously explode.”
The vision John Titor paints of the multiverse (or, as he refers to it, the “superverse”) is, as I understand it, similar to those fiber optic light spheres (pictured above). Each worldline is a single point that stretches outward infinitely. But some of the lows lines can spontaneously come to an end, independent of the others.
“Time travel” occurs as a result of traveling between those lines. Thus, no paradoxes, as any time traveler would be entering another universe entirely.
Titor also makes several references to the Everett-Wheeler model:
Temporal space-time is made up of every possible quantum state. The Everett Wheeler model is correct.
The Everett-Wheeler model is also known as the theory of the Universal Wavefunction. It’s an attempted explanation for the bizarre wave-like behavior of individual particles in the double-slit experiment, stating that every possible outcome of events always happens, each event splitting off into its own universe to avoid wavefunction collapse. Hence, multiple worldlines.
At the moment, none of this can be verified, but our current path of physics may surprise us, and the Many-worlds interpretation is considered a legitimate possibility.
9. What Makes Time Travel Possible
The general public was informed about time travel around 2034.
And now we’re back to the future. Will we ever gain the ability to travel through time? Titor stated that the mechanisms of time travel would be discovered at CERN with the creation of microsingularities, or miniature black holes.
Titor’s own machine, which he was trained to operate specifically for his mission in 1975, was created by General Electric, and at the time of his departure from 2036, new variations were being designed, with more accurate clocks and far greater precision.
But we, here, cannot tell the future.
The Lessons Of John Titor
For an alleged time traveler posting on Internet forums in 2000 to early 2001, Titor was surprisingly forward-thinking. Whoever this individual was, he foresaw the renewed conflict in the Middle East, the growing tensions within the U.S., and the arrival of certain scientific breakthroughs.
Much of this could have been extrapolated from information already available at the time. Past conflicts, economic foresight, scientific speculation. We can often see the world of tomorrow through the lens of today.
But tomorrow is always changing. Prior to 9/11, I’m not sure how many of us could have envisioned this post-9/11 world. A world which Titor, despite the failure of most of his “predictions,” saw so clearly.
John Titor is, above all else, an interesting character. His finesse at winning the hearts and minds, or otherwise drawing the ire, of Internet goers lies simply in his statement “I don’t want you to believe me.” Perhaps there’s something to be said for reverse psychology after all.
Stripping out the time travel, the bias, the doom and gloom, we’re left with a simple tale of caution and morality, in which we’re warned to keep our minds open, our intentions pure, and our eyes focused only on the truth:
When the day comes for my “prediction” to be realized it will either happen or not. If it does happen, then your ability to judge your environment is crippled by your acceptance of me as a “knower of all things” and gifted with the ability to tell the future. If I am wrong, then everything I have said that might possibly have made you think about your world in a different way is suddenly discredited. I do not want either.
Although I do have personal reasons for being here and speaking with you, the most I could hope for is that you recognize the possibility of time travel as a reality. You are able to change your worldline for better or worse just as I am.
It’s strange how, looking at Titor’s predictions and comparing them to our actual reality, a pattern nearly forms.
If it weren’t for an odd turn here, or a slight shift there, Titor’s world could have become our own.
And who knows, maybe it will.
If our worldline were different by just 2.5%, where would we be?
John Titor is the name used on several bulletin boards during 2000 and 2001 by a poster claiming to be a time traveler from 2036.
In these posts, Titor made numerous predictions (a number of them vague, some quite specific about events in the near future, starting with events in 2004. He described a drastically changed future in which the United States had broken into five smaller regions, the environment and infrastructure had been devastated by a nuclear attack, and most other world powers had been destroyed.
To date, the story has been retold on numerous web sites, in a book, in a play, and the Japanese visual novel/anime Steins;Gate. Titor has also been discussed occasionally on the nationally-syndicated radio show Coast to Coast AM.
The first posts appeared on the Time Travel Institute forums on November 2, 2000, under the name TimeTravel_0. At the time the posts had nothing to do with future events and the name "John Titor" was not being used. Instead, the posts discussed time travel in general, the first one being the "six parts" description of what a time machine would need to have to work (see below) and responses to questions about how such a machine would work. Early messages tended to be short.
The name "John Titor" was not introduced until January 2001, when TimeTravel_0 began posting at the Art Bell BBS Forums (which required a name or pseudonym for every account). The Titor posts ended in late March 2001. Eventually, a number of the threads became corrupted; but Titor's posts had been saved on subscribers' hard drives and were copied to Anomalies.net, along with new discussions of the science behind Titor's time travelling as well as his predictions. Around 2003, various websites reproduced Titor's posts, re-arranging them into narratives. Not all refer to the original dates posted
In his online postings, Titor claimed to be an American soldier from 2036, based in Tampa in Hillsborough County, Florida, who was assigned to a governmental time-travel project. Purportedly, Titor had been sent back to 1975 to retrieve an IBM 5100 computer which he said was needed to "debug" various legacy computer programs in 2036; a reference to the UNIX year 2038 problem. The 5100 runs the APL and BASIC programming languages. Titor had been selected for this mission specifically, given that his paternal grandfather was directly involved with the assembly and programming of the 5100.
Titor claimed to be on a stopover in the year 2000 for "personal reasons"; i.e., to collect pictures lost in the (future) civil war and to visit his family, of whom he spoke often. Titor also said he had been, for a few months, trying to alert anyone that would listen about the threat of Creutzfeldt–Jakob disease spread through beef products and about the possibility of civil war within the United States. When questioned about them by an online subscriber, Titor also expressed an interest in mysteries such as UFOs (which remained unexplained in his time). Titor suggested that UFOs and extra-terrestrials might be travelers from much further into the future than his own time, with superior time machines.
Titor described the time machine on several occasions. In an early post, he described it as a "stationary mass, temporal displacement unit powered by two top-spin, dual positive singularities", producing a "standard off-set Tipler sinusoid". The earliest post was more explicit, saying it contained the following:
Two magnetic housing units for the dual micro singularities
An electron injection manifold to alter mass and gravity of the micro singularities
A cooling and X-ray venting system
Gravity sensors, or a variable gravity lock
Four main cesium clocks
Three main computer units
According to the posts, the device was installed in the rear of a 1967 Chevrolet Corvette convertible and later moved to a 1987 truck having four-wheel drive.
Titor also shared several scans of the manual of a "C204 Time Displacement Unit" with diagrams and schematics. He also shared some photographs of the device installed in the car.
Titor further claimed that the "Everett–Wheeler model of quantum physics" was correct. This model, better known as the many-worlds interpretation, posits that every possible outcome of a quantum decision actually occurs in a separate "universe". Titor stated that this was the reason the grandfather paradox would not occur; following the logic of the argument, Titor would be killing a different John Titor's grandfather in a timeline other than his own.
...The grandfather paradox is impossible. In fact, all paradox is impossible. The Everett–Wheeler–Graham or multiple world theory is correct. All possible quantum states, events, possibilities, and outcomes are real, eventual, and occurring. The chances of everything happening someplace at sometime in the superverse is 100%
Although invoking the many-worlds interpretation of quantum mechanics, whereby events from his own timeline may differ from our own, Titor also expressed assurance that the differences were minimal. As such, his descriptions have been interpreted as predictions and compared with historical events since 2001.
The most immediate of Titor's predictions was of an upcoming civil war in the United States having to do with "order and rights". He described it as beginning in 2004, with civil unrest surrounding the presidential election of that year. This civil conflict that he characterizes as "having a Waco type event every month that steadily gets worse" will be "pretty much at everyone's doorstep" and erupts by 2008.
Titor claimed that as a 13-year old in 2011, he fought with the Fighting Diamondbacks, a shotgun infantry unit of Florida, for at least four years. However, in other posts he describes himself as hiding from the war. As a result of the war, the United States splits into five regions based on various factors and differing military objectives. This civil war, according to Titor, will end in 2015 with a brief but intense World War III:
In 2015, Russia launches a nuclear strike against the major cities in the United States (which is the "other side" of the civil war from my perspective), China, and Europe. The United States counter attacks. The US cities are destroyed along with the AFE (American Federal Empire)...thus we (in the country) won. The European Union and China were also destroyed.
Titor refers to the exchange as N Day. Washington, D.C. and Jacksonville, Florida are specifically mentioned as being hit. After the war, Omaha, Nebraska is the US's new capital city.
Titor is vague as to the exact motivations and causes for World War III. At one point, he characterized the hostilities as being led by "border clashes and overpopulation", but also points to the present conflict between Arabs and Jews as not a cause, but rather a milestone that precedes a World War III.
he posts were met with skepticism when they were being posted, but it was impossible to prove beforehand that the predicted events would not happen. Because Titor claimed the many-worlds interpretation of quantum physics was correct, effectively meaning that his travel was from a parallel universe and that things could occur differently than he had predicted, the details he presented wereunfalsifiable.
One of Titor's earliest assertions was that CERN would discover the basis for time travel sometime around 2001, with the creation of miniature black holes about half a year after his departure. An article occurring generally around the time he had predicted about miniature black holes being created by CERN (a recurring theme, also ascribed to Fermilab and Brookhaven at various times) was taken by some to be evidence of this claim, but these events did not occur either. Civil war did not break out after the 2004 presidential election, nor did conflicts in 2008 and 2012 as described by Titor.
Titor also unambiguously claimed that the last Olympics would occur in 2004. While it is unclear if he meant the summer or winter Olympics, both the 2008 and 2012 summer Olympics and the 2006 and 2010 winter Olympics have been successfully hosted.
In the context of the demonstration image provided by John Titor, the laser pointer's beam being "bent" reveals the obvious inconsistency of objects near the beam not appearing to be bent as well. The framing of the window visible in the background, for instance, should appear distorted in proximity to a large gravity gradient, but it does not. Some have speculated the "beam" is anoptical fiber.
Titor claimed that he was sent back to obtain an IBM 5100 because it could translate several types of computer code. According to IBM engineer Bob Dubke, Titor's statements regarding the IBM 5100's little-known ability to emulate and debug mainframe systems were correct.Supporters state that this information was not publicly available in 2000 or 2001 when Titor made his declaration,and Titor himself stated that this feature was "discovered" as late as 2036 when Unix, as the underlying source behind all computer operating systems still running local infrastructures and other computational tasks, was only two years away from no longer functioningdue to 32-bit integer limitations.
However, this emulation capability was widely known in the industry and commented on in depth in numerous publications dealing with both the 5100 and programmable microcode in general. References to this were also available on the Internet as early as 1999 and therefore predated Titor's postings. This is a fairly obscure bit of trivia, however, which suggests that whoever was making the posts either was familiar with the machine specifically or else had at least a general interest in retrocomputing.
Numerous commentators have pointed out the extensive similarities between the Titor story and Pat Frank's classic post-apocalyptic science fiction novel Alas, Babylon. Among other similarities, Alas, Babylon takes place in a small river-side town in Florida just before and after a nuclear war and describes the struggle to survive as a family in the aftermath. In the book, the protagonist lives in the fictional town of "Fort Repose", while Titor claimed to live in the "Fort", formerly the University of Florida.
The internal consistency of Titor's story has been questioned: for instance, in some posts he claims that money is widely used and people still have credit cards, despite his statement that centralized banking no longer exists (this is either an inconsistency or implies the rise of private currencies). In another posting, he speculated that today's dollar would be usable in his time, but that this would be after the reorganization of the federal government according to his own history, potentially making the currency worthless.
Other problems with the story include inconsistencies in Titor's comments. His first appearance appears to have been not in 2000, but in the summer of 1998 through two faxes to Art Bell's radio program Coast to Coast AM. When he began posting the online story, Y2K(January 1, 2000) had come and gone without any real problems. Yet in the 1998 faxes to Art Bell he said, "Y2K is a disaster. Many people freeze to death trying to get to warmer weather. The gov. tries to keep power by instituting marshall [sic] law..."
In the online story, Titor stated that a part of his mission was to prevent the coming world war by changing history. Yet during an IRC chat in October 2000, a month before he began posting, Titor was asked if the future could be changed from his predictions, and answered "It's too late ... I just wish things didn't have to happen the way they will." This stated mission also contradicts his other posts explaining that the multiverse theory is correct (see above), which would make changing history pointless in the context of his own timeline.
An Italian TV program (Voyager – Ai confini della conoscenza) aired an investigation of the John Titor story on May 19, 2008.Mike Lynch, the private detective hired to investigate, found that there were no registry traces, even far in the past, of any John Titor or Titor family. In addition, he discovered that there was a company that was called the John Titor Foundation. The John Titor Foundation is a for-profit Florida LLC that was formed September 16, 2003. It had no office, and it only had a rented post box with the address PMB 237, 7862 W Irlo Bronson Highway, Kissimmee FL 34747; no tapes, recordings, or evidence of Titor were found, and only Larry Haber, the CEO of the John Titor Foundation and an entertainment lawyer in Celebration, Florida, confirmed his existence. Lynch's conclusion is that John Titor may be John Rick Haber, a computer expert who is Larry Haber's brother.
also see:
http://eviland666.blogspot.com/2012/01/john-titor-coast-to-coast-am-youtube.html
http://eviland666.blogspot.com/2012/01/john-titor-442011-coast-to-coast-am.htmlhttp://eviland666.blogspot.com/2012/01/time-travelling-john-titor-2036-hoax-or.html
http://eviland666.blogspot.com/2012/01/time-travel-john-titors-startling.html
http://eviland666.blogspot.com/2012/01/john-titor-photos-he-posted.html
http://eviland666.blogspot.com/2012/01/1.html
http://eviland666.blogspot.com/2012/01/2.html
http://eviland666.blogspot.com/2012/01/interview-with-pamela-of-john-titor.html
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